S7E11: What are the Fruits of the Spirit?

As we wander through Lent, let's unravel the deep roots of our faith and the ways they intertwine with the Fruits of the Spirit. This season offers more than just a time for reflection; it's an opportunity to enrich our souls with virtues like love, joy, and peace. I share a childhood melody that traces these qualities back to Galatians, where we're called to embrace a life aligned with spiritual, not physical, desires. We will navigate how these virtues foster community love and embody the essence of a faith-driven existence.

Imagine a life where discipline and joy coexist harmoniously. That's the journey we embark on as we consider Jesus's role beyond being a profound thought leader. The Fruits of the Spirit are more than just lofty ideals; they're attainable qualities that, with Jesus's guidance, can mold our very nature. We'll unravel what true freedom in Christ means, moving past societal definitions to discover the liberty of making life-affirming choices. Personal stories of struggle and triumph will illuminate this path, showcasing the genuine happiness that blooms from righteous decisions.

The melodies of "Father Abraham" and "Kumbaya" might evoke a smile or a nostalgic tear, but they carry a profound significance that resonates through our spiritual journey. We reminisce about these childhood hymns, reflecting on how they've woven a thread of community and belief that sustains us to this day. Faith isn't just about what we say; it's reflected in our actions and our approach to life. As a former school teacher and pastor, I've seen firsthand the transformative power of living a Christ-centered life and the impact it has on those we touch, from students to parents. Join us as we celebrate the rich tapestry of faith that these songs and our shared experiences have created.

If you have any questions, give Kim a shout at kmeyers@standrewmethodist.org. Want Kim to speak at an event? Go to kimmeyers.org to see availability.

Chapters

• 0:01 Exploring the Fruits of the Spirit
• 10:04 Living by the Fruit of Spirit
• 20:10 Living a Life of Faith
• 32:32 Christian Songs and Childhood Memories

Transcript

Speaker 1: 0:01

Welcome to Lift. This is season seven of this podcast, where this season we're going to be talking still about faith in life, but we're going to be asking questions about faith. We're going to start this season asking about Lent and the season of Lent. As Christians, why do we celebrate it, what is it and why does it matter to me? I'm hoping that you will find new insights into Lent, holy Week and Easter. Then we're going to continue to ask questions about faith, questions that you probably have, that maybe you've just never asked, maybe questions your kid have asked you, that you don't quite know how to respond. We're going to dive into those and see what it can mean for us and how asking questions can help're going to dive into those and see what it can mean for us and how asking questions can help us connect to our faith. Hello friends, welcome back to Lift with Kim and Winston. Hey, winston, hey, what's up? You know not much, not much. I'm looking into the horizon and see summer coming and I'm super excited.

Speaker 2: 1:05

For wasp and bees.

Speaker 1: 1:07

Well, way to bring it down.

Speaker 2: 1:08

I just had to fight a wasp yesterday.

Speaker 1: 1:11

We are having squirrels exterminated from our house. So yeah, okay. So I love the sun. I don't love, and I love kind of a different pace of summer.

Speaker 2: 1:20

That's what I'm talking about. Right, I love swimming, so I'm ready for it.

Speaker 1: 1:24

I do too I love swimming. Or I love being by the water. Yes, 100% yeah, except for I am one of the whitest humans in the world, so the sun and I don't get along very well, but I like it. I like it Alright. So we are continuing in this season of Questions of faith. Yes, what are you asking me today?

Speaker 2: 1:48

So, this is one that I've we've talked about. We haven't really talked about it, but it's one. I have no clue about what you're about to tell me, because I have no understanding of what I'm going to ask. But you've mentioned fruits of the spirit, yes, multiple times. I have no idea what that is, so my question is what? Number one? What is it?

Speaker 1: 2:09

And yeah, Okay, so it's not Fruit of the Loom, it's not no, remember that commercial from the 80s. It's not that. But there is a song. Maybe it was the 90s, anyhow. There's a song about the Fruits of the Spirit. Are you ready? It's one I grew up singing in camps and that's what. Like you grew up in church. It's just so funny how different denominations have different songs that they teach at camps.

Speaker 2: 2:33

Okay, I was pastor's son at church camp, which means I kind of just got to run around and do whatever and remember I was the yeah, I know, I know.

Speaker 1: 2:42

But okay, so it starts like this the fruit of the spirit's, not a banana. The fruit of the spirit's, not a banana. If you want to be a banana, you might as well hear it. You can't be the fruit of the spirit, for because it's love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, facialness, gentleness and self-control. Love, joy, peace, patience, kindness and goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control Never.

Speaker 2: 3:05

No.

Speaker 1: 3:06

I'm sorry everybody for that, by the way.

Speaker 2: 3:08

I'm sure it goes down.

Speaker 1: 3:09

And then it keeps going. You can't. Fruit of the Spirit's not an apple, fruit of the Spirit's not a coconut, because the point is the singing of love, joy, peace, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control. Okay, okay, yeah, so it comes from scripture. Yeah, galatians, when paul is writing to people, he's typically been there most of the time and you might have heard me talk about this before, but Paul has these patterns. When he writes to churches, he's been to like, hey, good job, stop doing this and be who you're called to be. Okay, yeah, living into who you're called to be and not leaning into the physical desires of the body, without going way too deep, way too far. Okay, so, like this is in Galatians 5 and 13 through 25 talks about the fruits of the spirit. Before that, like it talks about works for the flesh. Let's just make it PG.

Speaker 1: 4:31

Okay, I typically, during a day, only drink water. I might have some sparkling water, but I try to drink lots of water. Why? It's good for me, helps me feel better, it hydrates, like it's just all the things right, it makes my life work. I know, being my best self, I should drink two of my giant things of water a day, probably actually three. Today I'm drinking Diet Coke. I had a late night last night and didn't go to bed like I wanted to Do. You know what would probably make me feel better?

Speaker 2: 5:12

Water.

Speaker 1: 5:13

Water. Yet I chose the Diet Coke, right, because sometimes I just desire for something that's not good for me. Okay, right, and if Diet Coke is my worst desire, sign me up. Life's good, right. But in this scripture, like, it talks about what the flesh desires as opposed to the spirit, what the spirit desires as opposed to the flesh, talking about that we like, again, we desire things that aren't always good for us or right, right. And it's talking about also living into community, loving your neighbor, and this is, this is what you do love, joy, peace, patience, goodness, faithfulnessleness and self-control.

Speaker 2: 6:08

Yeah, pretty much hammers. All in a nutshell right there, yeah, right.

Speaker 1: 6:12

So I have this sign in my kitchen that has the fruits of the spirit on it. I need to update my house. It was back when, like people painted on pallets, and so I think about it on Etsy and it's a pallet hanging on my kitchen, but it has the fruits of the spirit written on it. Okay, and when my children were younger, if there was something going on in their life or they were frustrated about something, or they had made a poor choice or something like that, I would point to the sign behind me. Choice or something like that. I would point to the sign behind me say what fruit of the spirit did you just break? Ah, okay, Right, because it is a guide into how to be your best self and how to treat others. Right, because it's got both of them, right?

Speaker 2: 6:59

Well, that's also, I would say. Is that not? That's a? Okay, I love this. Can you repeat that one more time? So it's a guide to.

Speaker 1: 7:05

To be our best selves and how to treat others.

Speaker 2: 7:08

Isn't that basically the premise of the entire? I mean, that's the goal of the Bible as a whole. Right, yeah, Okay.

Speaker 1: 7:13

Yeah, which is great. I mean, in my Bible there's like a study section underneath it. Scripture often alludes to Wesley, who's the founder of the United Methodist Church presents a compelling picture of what it looks like to have the Holy Spirit reign in human life, just as you know an apple tree by the fruits of its limbs. The passage says you know no Christians when you see fruit in their lives. So you know an apple tree because there's an apple hanging from the tree. If there weren't apples hanging from the tree, most people I'm sure some botanists could do it well wouldn't look at that tree and be like, oh, that's an apple tree. Right, we know it's an apple tree because you see the fruit of the tree. Okay, what I want people to know about me in my life is that I'm a Christian 24 hours a day, seven days a week, not that I'm perfect, not that I'm holier than thou, not that I'm better than anybody, and the only way they're going to know that is through seeing these things come out in my actions.

Speaker 2: 8:29

Okay.

Speaker 1: 8:30

Which aren't always natural.

Speaker 2: 8:32

Explain that.

Speaker 1: 8:33

Well, gentleness and self-control is not something I'm good at. I have an aggressive personality. I like to get things done and I'm always right. I like to get things done and I'm always right. It doesn't always go together well with gentleness. Okay, right. Self-control not something I'm good at either, right, but again, this isn't just written for me, but I'm going to talk through my lens. Yeah, none of us are good at this stuff, right. But again, this isn't just written for me, but I'm going to talk through my lens.

Speaker 1: 9:04

Yeah, none of us are good at this stuff, right, and that's why the words of the flesh, the works of the flesh, before it, I mean Paul's saying listen, I get you Like sure, you want to do this or you want to do that, but this is who we're called to be, and it kind of it goes back I don't want to get too deep theologically or biblically, but I mean it goes back to a Hebrew scripture. It goes back to Jesus saying what's the greatest commandment? To love God and love your neighbor. Okay, then Jesus tells the story about how to love your neighbor, and it's called the Good Samaritan. Paul takes that and puts it into these words, which we now refer to the fruits of the spirit. It's not a coconut. Love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control. Love, joy, peace, patience, kindness and faithfulness, gentleness and self-control. So I have a.

Speaker 2: 10:03

Go ahead. This always leads to another question, always. So when we were meeting last week, y'all were kind of talking about things that are coming up. We're talking about stories of Jesus this summer.

Speaker 1: 10:11

Yep.

Speaker 2: 10:12

I'm super excited about that, by the way. Yeah, but the coolest thing y'all said was and I wish one of those moments when I idea of like Jesus is more than a thought leader, remember Because, can you so? I think of the fruits of the spirit. I'm thinking like, yes, that is what I'm supposed to do, but I think it was Scott that said something about but we're forgetting about the authority part of it Am.

Speaker 1: 10:39

I no, I'm hearing you. I want you to ask a question for the people who weren't in that room with us.

Speaker 2: 10:45

I'm messing this up, aren't I? No, you're fine. I want to understand how I'm supposed to take the fruits of the spirit and also combine it with Jesus. I feel like there's something in that room when we're having that conversation. I kind of just want to understand like what am I missing? Am I missing part of that story or an understanding? Because I just want to understand like what am I missing? Am I missing part of that story or an understanding? Because I felt like I was, but maybe I'm not.

Speaker 1: 11:07

Well, I mean, can I read the scripture to you? How about we start there? So, Galatians 22. This is my preacher voice. By contrast, the fruits of the spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, generosity is what this says Faithfulness, gentleness and self-control. I can't ever not do that.

Speaker 1: 11:27

There is no law against such things, and those who belong to Christ Jesus have crucified the flesh with passion and desires. We live by the Spirit. Let us also be guided by the Spirit, not become conceited, compelling against each other and envying, envy, envy, envy, envy, envy, envy, envy, envy, envy, envy, envy, envy, envy. This is the problem with being dyslexic and reading out loud Envy, envy. Yeah, that's it. One another. So interesting, if you keep reading, the next section is about being there for each other and helping each other with each other's burdens. And then he has, like a benediction at the end of galatians, right, the fruits of the spirit.

Speaker 1: 12:15

So what paul is doing in this scripture again is what paul does so well. It's like reminding the church who you're supposed to be, and this is what you and I will never get. Paul like walked with Jesus. Can you imagine the passion he had for starting the church? Like I have a passion for my faith and I have a passion for my like compelling to tell this story and when I say I don't know Jesus, I know Jesus, I love Jesus, jesus, right, but I, like I've never physically held Jesus hand and walked with Jesus in, like, right, like, oh, I can't even imagine, and I think that's why Paul so much, he most of the time starts through kindness.

Speaker 1: 13:05

But then he's like come on, people, like he told us what to do, get it together, yeah, 100%, and that's like. But this is why I love scripture, as I put my hand lovingly on my ratted, torn Bible. It is written for the human condition. It is not written for perfection, it is not written for only those who. It is written for the human condition, right, which, as much as we, I don't know, want to admit, not want to admit, we're broken and and we need guidance, and we need help. And guess what? We have it Right. And so this is Paul reminding them. Because I mean it also, like I brought some stuff. But like when we talk about fruits of the Spirit and it's another one of those things that can feel like there's a lane that you have to fit into as a Christian, right, like, if you are going to be a Christian, you need to do these things. If you don't do these things, you don't fit Right. Right, and one book that I read about it's talking about, like, freedom in Christ.

Speaker 2: 14:22

Ooh, explain that.

Speaker 1: 14:23

Okay, it doesn't feel free when you talk about you have the Ten Commandments and do this and don't do that, like, is there freedom actually in that? And the answer? My answer is yeah, absolutely. Let's see, one of the things like the idea that freedom means the absence of things is actually not right. Like freedom is the ability to choose to do things, the freedom to vote Right, right, the freedom like my marriage. I have the freedom. I am not forced into this marriage, right, right, I have the freedom to choose to love him well or not love him. Well, right, the freedom in Christ is, then, that breath where you choose to walk the higher road, because sometimes, man, it is fun to walk the low road.

Speaker 2: 15:30

Is it, though? I mean, does it really, does it make you feel like it's kind of that conversation how we had before, when it's like, do you no?

Speaker 1: 15:36

that's my snarkiness. I like being snarky and in that I'm saying that no fun isn't the right word. It is easy for my personality to go low instead of go high, but does it make you feel good?

Speaker 2: 15:50

No, you know you're going low and you know you're not supposed to, so it doesn't make you feel good. No.

Speaker 1: 15:53

And it's not who. I'm called to be All right, I'm called to be better than that. I'm not perfect. I'm not always going to be perfect. Y'all know this about me. Why I need a guide in scripture and a heavenly father, son, heavenly Father, son, holy Spirit, that can show me the way. And that's the freedom in Christ where I say, like I can't do this alone. Right, freedom like parenting. Discipline Sounds like a horrible, mean word, but you're around kids who are disciplined and not disciplined. Disciplined is better. It's giving parameters and giving choices. In that it's not like beating a child into submission. It is helping them make good choices so that one day they can make them their own. That is what faith is helping us make good choices so then one day they just become natural. Right, the fact that I got a Diet Coke today one of my co-workers was like oh a.

Speaker 2: 17:06

Diet Coke day, which gave me a little peace and salt.

Speaker 1: 17:07

Like it's because I don't drink diet. They knew, they knew, they knew Kim's tired, but it's because my natural choice now is water, right, and so if you see me with a Diet Coke, it means I'm tired. You've ventured off the path. I'm tired, I need to come back. In fact, you have a water in front of you, and now I'm a little jealous of that.

Speaker 2: 17:26

I would much prefer to have a Diet Coke. No, I would like a Sprite or something. I would much prefer to have Diet Coke. No, I would like a Sprite or something.

Speaker 1: 17:31

Yeah, what's the point of a Sprite? There's no caffeine?

Speaker 2: 17:34

Okay, then tell me what the flavor is of Coke. I've had this conversation. I don't understand.

Speaker 1: 17:38

I don't know it's not good for you.

Speaker 2: 17:40

Okay, fruits, it's not the fruit of the spirit. It's not the fruit of the spirit. What are I? Don't have a pen or piece of paper. We're going to try it. I'm going to try this. Okay, here we go. I'm assuming Self-control, self-control. That's the last one because I can read it a hundred times.

Speaker 1: 17:59

Okay, you know what? Don't try to quote scripture. Give me some good ways to live by.

Speaker 2: 18:08

Wow, that's a loaded question. No, it's not Like. You know the answer Like what do you mean?

Speaker 1: 18:13

Some good words If you said to your kids do this and you'll be better. What is it?

Speaker 2: 18:19

Very much so I would say the words control your emotions, which is self-control, self-control. It's like, oh, that's right on point, try to treat others Like bring joy to others. Oh, joy there you go, it's okay.

Speaker 1: 18:37

Love yeah, joy, joy Peace.

Speaker 2: 18:41

Should have hit that one Patience, yeah.

Speaker 1: 18:43

Kindness, okay, goodness. Faithfulness, gentleness and self-control. Are you going to ask me what goodness is I see your face? I? You going to ask me what goodness is I see your face?

Speaker 2: 18:53

I was going to say what's the difference? What is the difference in Kindness and goodness? Is goodness more?

Speaker 1: 19:02

Oh, Winston, oh no.

Speaker 2: 19:04

I mean.

Speaker 1: 19:04

I do know, I'm sure, if we, because this one, my book, my book, my Bible, says love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, generosity, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control.

Speaker 2: 19:18

I was thinking, goodness means like outwardly giving. I guess that's what I was thinking. That's also a good way to define generosity.

Speaker 1: 19:28

See snark. I'm snarky today but again, we've talked many times when you've asked me questions. Yeah, and these scriptures, these things, the fruits of the spirit, not a coconut is how people will see that we are who we say we are right and also helps us re-center into who we're called to be Right and how we're supposed to treat others right. A long time ago, we talked about the Ten Commandments.

Speaker 1: 19:57

And the first part of the Ten Commandments are how to love God and have a relationship with God. The end of the Ten Commandments are how to love others. Why do we need those rules? Because both of them are hard. Faith isn't easy. It is not easy to not do what might feel better or what might feel easier in the time. But you're right, when I choose to take a low road because I know I'm taking it, I never am proud of myself afterwards. Correct Right, and that's how you know I and that's how you know.

Speaker 2: 20:31

I mean, that's how you know you're living correctly, right? Because, like I said, it doesn't make you feel good, right?

Speaker 1: 20:36

I mean simple, right, let's say back, talk at the table, and I'm like, what fruit of the spirit did you break? And kindness, self-control, love, you know like boom, half of them out, right, because. Boom, half of them out, right, because it's not being respectful. You know, if it was me or if it was your brother, you're supposed to treat others well, right, and this is how love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control. See, I like that.

Speaker 2: 21:04

I mean, the coolest thing is you're telling me that part. I was listening to it, I was thinking about it. We're saying the fruit of the Spirit shows a tree thing you were referring, right. Yep, I was thinking, oh, like, I think that's why, even though I didn't again, I've acknowledged many times that I didn't pay a bunch of attention while I was in church but I think my parents live their lives in a way that I see what they're doing. So that's why, like, all of my understanding of how to live my life comes from watching them and they're really good Christian. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, so it kind of just they're doing their job, so it's.

Speaker 1: 21:36

How we live our life is more important than what we say we do. What we do we do is more important than what we say we do, because if you say one thing and do another, that doesn't work Right. I mean, it could work, but not well. You know, as a school teacher I love hearing school teachers talk Back in the 90s and you can't bring your faith into a public school classroom as much as you can into well, it depends. Okay, funny story I did my student teaching some of it in East Texas. Man, they prayed before the lunchroom. I was like ooh, ooh, but I don't do that in the Metroplex. So I kind of struggled with how to be a faithful Christian in a place where I couldn't pray before lunch or ask the parents if they wanted to pray before a parent-teacher conference. Right, like it wasn't separation of church and state, da-da-da-da-da-da, and I decided that it would be in who I am.

Speaker 2: 22:40

Okay.

Speaker 1: 22:41

That I would treat others kindly, I would respect others, I would try my best to see the parents and the students as created perfectly in God's image. Before I made a phone call, good or bad, I would say every single time dear God, let these words be your words. And this is school teacher time. This wasn't pastor time.

Speaker 2: 23:03

Yeah, I was going to say it's amazing that you were doing that even before. At least to me it's amazing. It's not amazing to you, because that's who you are, who your character is, but it's astounding to find, because that's who you are, who your character is, but it's astounding to find out that you were that person even before you had moved into like ministry.

Speaker 1: 23:12

Yeah, because I am smart enough to know if I'm left to my own accord, it's not good. But again, I mean, really I have this story that I've told and this is kind of the in between from classroom teacher to pastor, when I worked and I ran a preschool, right, and there was this one kid in our preschool I mean there's more than one, but this one in particular Well, he was that kid, and when I say that kid I just mean aggressive in his behavior, hard, like, didn't have very many friends, used his emotions with his fist and his teeth, and it was just, it was. He was a hard kid to teach and I saw the mom walk in every single day with her shoulders held forward, her face down, and like she knew that she was going to be confronted every day at pickup with some horror story about her son, and usually in front of the other parent. Right, like, because that's, you know, preschool. Back in that day, right, you just went to the door, picked up your kid and left.

Speaker 1: 24:18

You know we have a little bit more security procedures now, but anyhow, I went to the teachers and said listen, I see him, I know he's hard, I want you before you walk into this classroom. I want you to start praying for him by name and I want you to start praying for the parents by name, and I want you to start trying your best to see him as a child of God, created perfectly in God's image. Right, winston, it transformed how we saw that kid and we can't do that. I, kim Myers, cannot change how I see a kid. That is just a difficult kid. Yeah, it also transformed how that parent walked into. Oh my gosh. I saw her then walking with her shoulders back and her eyes up, because I said no longer like, the first thing out of your mouth is positive.

Speaker 2: 25:17

It's not going to be beaten down, it's what she gets.

Speaker 1: 25:20

And even and I think we do this again even like the works of the flesh. It doesn't necessarily mean like sinful, like lustful things. It means that we are easily guided by negativity, we are easily going to the paths of you know, whatever it is, the fruits of the spirit help bring us back into loving him, finding the joy in him, having peace, patience and kindness with him, being generous with our words and our actions, being faithful by praying for him, being gentle and not aggressive with him, which means we need to have self-control. I can't not, but that's why I think the fruits of the spirit are just such a lovely illustration of who we're called to be as a Christian. Yeah, why haven't I talked about this before? I don't know, Winston, I don't know. Like seriously, what songs did Joel sing?

Speaker 2: 26:30

So I was in the choir. Is there a video of this? I'm sure there is. I think it's probably on VHS somewhere. Yeah, I led one. I led a couple songs being a force.

Speaker 1: 26:42

But did y'all have like kitschy songs like this for scripture and stuff, like Noah's Ark song or I'm a C, I'm a C-H, I'm a C-H-R-A-S-T-I-N.

Speaker 2: 26:52

I have C-H.

Speaker 1: 26:53

I'm a C-H-R-A-S-T-I-N, I have C-H-R-A-S-T-E-M-I-H-E-A-R-T-N-I-L-O-V-E Anyhow. I mean, and those of you who grew up in camp, and you're going to have that earworm in your head the rest of the day. I'm sorry, but back to it was surprising that you had never heard the fruits of the spirit as a named entity.

Speaker 1: 27:16

My kids dressed up for the fruits of the spirit for like a church festival, which is like this eye roll gasp christian youth group costume, right, like you're not going to be a vampire at church, so let's be a fruit of the spirit. It's so cheesy, but even as cheesy as it can be, I do believe it has really practical applications. Both of God's grace, right, because, honestly, when it comes to things that we are called to do, I believe it's because God does it for us.

Speaker 2: 28:01

We'll say that again.

Speaker 1: 28:02

Well, god loves us well, Right, I mean, I believe God is love Through, that is joy, peace that surpasses all understanding, a patience that I don't have in my physical being. Kindness instead of aggression, goodness instead of badness, faithfulness instead of void, gentleness, which is generosity instead of selfishness, and all of that requires some self-control that you choose to have, which I believe is just God's natural essence, until how God loves us well, because if God was fully human and not also fully divine, I mean we go to negative, which is again that's why I believe scripture is written for the human condition, not just me or you like. All Right, can I quiz you one more time? I'm going to get it wrong, but okay. Fruits of the.

Speaker 2: 29:07

Spirit are Joy, generosity, compassion. Hold on, I still got it. I still got it. I still got it.

Speaker 1: 29:16

Come on, love, love, self-control which also requires kindness and patience and honestly, I don't know if you got them all because you didn't say them in the order of the song love, joy peace, peace, peace, peace peace. I missed peace, man peace is all understanding.

Speaker 2: 29:40

I don't know that one keeps getting missed.

Speaker 1: 29:44

Well, have you seen the news. All right, winston. This is always fun. Good talk, yeah, so fruits of the spirit, help us center ourselves back into who we're called to be. If you need to read more about it, check out Galatians. It's always a good read. What's?

Speaker 2: 29:59

the book. It's the second book, in case you want to tell people about it.

Speaker 1: 30:03

Oh, this is a Pastor Dorky book.

Speaker 1: 30:05

Oh really it's called a lectionary or a commentary. Oh, so this is what pastors or people use to kind of study. So this book in particular has scripture at the top, which was galatians, and then it has a theological perspective, a pastoral perspective, an evangelical perspective and a homiletical, homiludic preaching homo, homiletical oh, why couldn't I say that word homiletical, homiletical, preaching homiletical. Why couldn't I say that word? Homiletical perspective? Okay, like how to preach it. Okay, so it gives you like theological is kind of the historical perspective of it. Pastoral is like how you could do it, like in a, how you can talk about the scripture or like one-on-one with somebody. Anyhow, it's just, it's a book. It's called Feasting on the Word. Cool, I have a whole bookshelf of them Because, like, this is Feasting on the Word. Year C, volume 3, for Pentecost and the season after Pentecost 1. Yeah, I'm real fun at parties. You should come over. Okay, what are?

Speaker 2: 31:13

you asking me next week? Next week we're going to talk about how to raise a Christian. Oh, that's simple. She just closes the book. I got this.

Speaker 1: 31:22

I got this All right. See you all next week, later, later. Well, the fruit of the spirit's, not a coconut. The fruit of the spirit's, not a coconut.

Speaker 2: 31:31

If you want to be a coconut.

Speaker 1: 31:38

You might as well hear it, you can. I hope that you found one thing that you can connect with this week to help build your daily faith life. If you'd like, you can join us on our Facebook community Practical Faith for weekly prayers, questions and, most weeks, a 10-minute devotion. I also invite you to check out St Andrew's website, standrewmethodistorg. Connect with us through different podcasts, online for worship, or come join us. We're always here to connect your life to your faith. If you're still listening, I need to warn you. We're going to sing silly Christian songs that you may or may not know, and we're going to see if Winston knows them. Bob go, oh, you can't, you can't, okay. Oh man, bob can't be in it.

Speaker 2: 32:39

Come on, bob, he can come in here. Father Abraham had seven sons and seven sons had Father Abraham. Okay, so you got that one, I got that one.

Speaker 1: 32:47

All right, all right. See, mine's different than yours. Mine's like right hand, left hand. All the dancers go like this to the left, to the right, to the left, to the right, yeah, Okay. All right, and you didn't know I'm a C, didn't know that one. I'm a CH. Did you know that one, bob, okay, kumbaya, my lord. Do you know the sign language to it? Yes.

Speaker 2: 33:12

No. Do you know the sign?

Speaker 1: 33:14

language to it. Yes, st Andrew presents. Yeah, what else? There was a Noah one. The building blocks, building blocks that were rejected. I don't know that one that's Baptist. I'm just saying we all had different songs. It wasn't a judgment thing, it was a Baptist thing. What is another one? There was some Ark, one Noah's Ark, and Noah's Ark song, yes, and then went in by Tuesday's Tuesday, lord, oh, my mom used to wake me up to this. This one gives me twitches.

Speaker 1: 34:02

Give God the glory. Glory, children of the Lord Legit. My mom woke me up to that Arky arky no, that's two different songs. The Arky Arky no, that's two different songs. So do you have anything?

Speaker 2: 34:18

No, I mean, I've heard the last two. Sister Ware would be very disappointed if she ran our children's church, my parents' church.

Speaker 1: 34:25

Yeah, she wouldn't know all the songs. You don't know any Christian songs off the top of your head like cheesy Christian songs. Let me think about church camp. But my mom did wake me up from birth to teenage years, singing Rise and shine and give God the glory, glory, children of the Lord. I want you to imagine teenage goth girl Kim being woken up to that.